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The grips were too thin to get a good grip of. Mechanically fine., s/n C216xx, 44 BP; 90% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. I am very pleased with what i got. New in Box-never fired. So If you load the .44 Remington with something like 25 grains blackpoweder you only get about 100 ft-lbs energy. But it's action Oh, it's action REALLY stank. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). No. If you are using a big bore handgun, the little 22 seems like a free party. 20?) THINNING VISIBLE ON BARREL NEAR MUZZLE. I have an ASM made, Cimarron marked, 1860 Richards. Great review. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. Definitely a 50-yard whitetail gun. Armi San Marco and Armi Sport now Chiappa are two different companies. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. I've never had any problems with them. Anyone know of a cylinder made for it? with only two hands, juggle the fresh loaded cylnder onto the Arbor Pin, replace the barrel, and drive home the wedge, (Bearing in mind that ones horse might be objecting quite strenuously to all the Booms, Bangs, cracks, and the whine of Shells going past hie ears!. This gun was thoroughly rebuilt by Oglesby & Oglesby and is a fine revolver having had the cylinder and hammer re-hardened, and wire springs installed, including the Ruger style coil handspring and plunger. Colt .44 with 30 grain. THE FINISH IS A STRIKING IRIDESCENT CHARCOAL BLUING WITH A TINY SPECK OF RUST IN FRONT OF THE TRIGGER 45 Caliber; 94% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 11'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION "W. PARKER-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT PERCUSSION PISTOL. Have fun. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . I have replacements now, but I keep it around as a back-up. stan wayback The 1858 Remmy is my favorite gun. Did you wash it in kitchen sink? My advice is to buy the gun and cylinder, forget that the combination will cost about the same as a modern revolver and enjoy the heck out of it. Lot 429: Armi San Marco Reproduction 1858 Revolver Two Reproduction Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: November 3, 2016 Estimated Price: $ 200 - $ 500 Price Realized: Details A) Armi San Marco Model 1858 Remington Revolver with Matching Box Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO Model: 1858 Type: Revolver Gauge: 44 percussion The rifle is the best looking gun in my collection, even better than my Henry. WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . Great article. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. The last line about being used since before the civil war is technically inaccurate. Tops all my Glocks, Berrets, Sigs, ARs, AKs etc. 1883 Burgess Manual. In the Remington Revolver, the cap is struck by the hammer, AFTER it passes through the slot in the Recoil Shield! Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . It was so bad, I did something I have never done before, or sinse; I had an action job done. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. The one thing I really like is that the entire process of loading is actually fun, whereas for my M&P45 loading a mag isnt something to get excited about. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. Get an UpLula magazine loader. percussion caps are NOT standard size. Howell Conversions - GATED 1858 Remington Pietta .45 LC. The same dimensional differences for width, etc will occur with the triggerguard and backstrap at the frame, but the screw pattern is always right on. I know we are here because our forefathers were able to bring down food with primitive firearms. 1885 High Wall Manual. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why No, there is little if any chance "any" parts you currently see, other than springs, that would work in an ASM. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. Just make sure that you compress the powder with the ball when you press it into the cylinder. I have a Uberti 1847 Walker. BORE IS VERY GOOD 44 Caliber; 75% blue, good bore, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION. WebArmi San Marco ASM 2nd Model Dragoon ASM 1847 Walker ASM 1849 Pocket ASM 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1858 1863 pocket ASM 1860 Army ASM 1861 Navy ASM 1862 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1873 Single Action ASM 1892 Categories Armi San Marco Beretta Pedersoli Uberti Pietta Armi Sport [Chiappa] IAB [Pedretti] Sharps KIRST That is true. It can eat load of 40 grains all day. Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. Used, bore is dirty, grips are worn. Model: 1858. Of course, walking around with fully-loaded and capped extra cylinders on your belt or in your pocket can be a bit dicey. The only real lemon was an ASM. The Remington on the other hand, was very WELL DESIGNED, and was considered to be one of the strongest Percussion Revolvers ever made, It also had a very superior Sighting System, with the rear sight a notch in the frame, and a post or blade foresight at the end of the barrell,, at the tip! Any rifle, pistol or shotgun made prior to that majic date is paper free. To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. I do have to give credit to ASM for the fact that most of their reproductions were historically correct. None other than William Buffalo Bill Cody wrote of his old 1858 Remington, It never failed me. If you had a few briefcases full of C-notes sitting around last summer, you could have bid on Buffalo Bills 1858 Remington, along with his hand-written note extolling the virtues of Beals revolver. Bore and stock in very good condition, rear sight is missing and front sight is loose. 6d 19h left (Thu, 11:33 AM) $29.95 Buy It Now +$7.95 shipping Sponsored Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco New (Other) $27.95 Buy It Now +$3.99 shipping Sponsored You have the names confused. Pietta and Uberti cylinders do not interchange. Selleck also used a Winchester 1876, and there are various Winny models all over town. Perfect for display and target shooting. WebArmi San Marco ASM 2nd Model Dragoon ASM 1847 Walker ASM 1849 Pocket ASM 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1858 1863 pocket ASM 1860 Army ASM 1861 Navy ASM 1862 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1873 Single Action ASM 1892 Categories Armi San Marco Beretta Pedersoli Uberti Pietta Armi Sport [Chiappa] IAB [Pedretti] Sharps KIRST Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. Rolling Youre reloaded. Ive got a friend in the Hill Country who is a maniac on the topic of hunting Bambis mom. The emphasis on having antlers to hang on the wall has led to a ratio of 20 does per buck, which is not a stable gene pool. Gauge: 44 percussion. -drop safety-Hammer - Z52778, A. Uberti & C. Cattleman 1873 It blew LaHood through a windowyumm. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. BRASS RECEIVER AND TRIGGER GUARD / GRIP FRAME ASSEMBLY. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. I have a used stainless Army San Paolo 1858 Remington that I got off Gunbroker several years ago and still havent fired it. But, since he doesn't shoot "cowboy" any more it's part of my backup pair to my main Colt guns). Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. A) Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolver. To be smooth like a real Winchester. Today, we know Old Number 21478 as the Remington 1858 . My 1858 is an Uberti model previously owned by a North-South Skirmish Association member. Best of all its FREE, and in abundant supply in most homes!!! I had not planned to involve myself in another topic, but there was so much conflicting information about what guns do and do not require involvement of the BATF. Safety pins, safety notches, po-TAY-tow, po-TOT-owe. Hot water dissolves the salts in black powder fouling and heats the metal so it dryes fast and prevents flash rust. When Puma started having the 92's made by them instead of Rossi in Brazil, they increased the prices but not the workmanship. Of course it is one of the old ones which may be the reason. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. The lesson is that if you shoot a black powder rifle dont think you know how to clean this pistol. 44 Caliber; 85% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. No record exists of his ever giving an Ordinary, Plain workmanlike Pistol, to anyone who might actually have to FIGHT with the badly designed piece of Junk!!!!! FINISH SHOWS LIGHT HANDLING WEAR WITH LIGHT WEAR VISIBLE ON THE CYLINDER. Armi San Marco is out of business. They are the Edsel of. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. The reason is that .44 is the muzzle diameter. Mounted Shooting 1873 Rifle Cleaning Instructions. I do remember an article about this first revolver in that it was so exactly copied from an original that even experienced Colt collectors had difficulty in telling the prototype from an original. I was told a few years back that the other gun makers in Italy approached them and requested that they work harder on the craftsmanship as they were giving the Italian gun makers a bad name. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 Max load? oops! Cleaned properly, and loaded properly, a Remington Style Percussion Revolver, can be as reliable as a modern Cartridge gun. I am sure it will do for deer. Cimarron Thunderer and Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 Original blued finish and plain walnut grips. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. Even though todays 1858s are made with modern steels and CNC machines, you still want to shoot only light cowboy loads through them. The Cleanest Clean Its Ever Been! I wipe off the parts of the frame with a water dampened rag, to get fouling off the frame, hammer, and the slot in the recoil shield whre the hammer goes through to strike the cap, then use a lightly oiled rag to go over the same places! 1885 Low Wall Manual. It was a great pointer and very accurate. The strong top-strap design, the ease of swapping cylinders and the safety notches are all reasons why so many modern cap-and-ball shooters still turn to Fordyce Beals design. Pietta "1858" CCH Hammer with lowered Spur by Ol' #4 30.00 + 2.75 shipping via USPS Selling as a set: Pietta Hammer, Trigger, Hand w/spring, Bolt/Trigger Spring and Hammer Spring 23.00 shipped. The percussion caps are a standard size. I know! Further, any muzzle loading rifle, shotgun, or pistol which is designed to use black powder or black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition, is an antique firearm unless it (1) incorporates a firearm frame or receiver; (2) is a firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon; or (3) is a muzzle loading weapon which can be readily View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium Thanks for the advice, very much appreciated. He examined the gun and proclaimed it one of the good ones and made me a really good offer that I applied to a like new in box NMV. I dont use grease on the cylinder. The Tom Selleck Western (from a Louis Lamour book) crossfire trail, the last scene has a virtual plethora of late 1800 iron in use by both the good and bad guys. Black Powder Revolver Manual. These are considered antiques and not subject to paper work. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Finally, different guns will perform differently with different sized balls (or conicals), and that is something to experiment with as well. 1883 Burgess Manual. Me too. As neat as that would seem it can also be a curse. Many folks have made the same mistake, though. One, an 1851 clone was built of the same parts produced by Uberti when they built the Colt "2nd Gen" percussion revolvers. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. Personally, I think hes nutso! I've been told these ASM revolvers' parts interchange with Colt 1st generation. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. I hated to see my 1858 lose the battle, but it was by far the coolest looking piece in the flick in its spotless mickel plate with no sign of holster wear or powdwer burns. Watch Cabelas.com or Cabelas stores ( if you have one close to you) See each listing for international shipping options and costs. My First Colt Style Gun, and my Last Colt style gun! Colt .36 with 21 grains. My very first Cap & Ball Revolver was replica of aaan1860 Colt Army Revolver. THE NICKLE PLATED FINISH IS GENERALLY EXCELLENT WITH A SPOT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRIP STRAP SHOWING DISCOLORATION. the 1858 is Lee van Cleefs gun in Good, bad and the ugly. Im 66 years old and I have been wanting to get a 1858black powder for a while now but because I live in Illinois I cant get no one to order me one . Some, like Traditions would rather just to volume and dont seem to be very demanding of quality. - 2) a few of the triggergaurd and backstrap screw heads have flaked a bitcosmetic only so far. Bore inn very good condition showing some light surface corrosion. If you want to make a guy worth killing, this should do it. There, you should find a roman numeral or two character alphabetical stamp. The bad guy carries a Peacemaker (a bit earlier than its actual appearance, but what the hell, it aint a documentary) (Said to have claimed his last victem by shooting him twice, skinning him and nailing his hid on the livery stable door! FOOD, WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL FRONT SIGHT IS MISSING. Thanks for clearing that up for me Steve, I do know however that the 74's made by the Chiappa are, having problems. WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. Howell Conversions - GATED 1858 Remington Pietta .45 LC. On clening, dont whatever you do mention water, on a web site run by some guy named John Fuhring. He would also GIVE to Government Officials, very fine engraved Pistols, beautifully engraved with Silver of Gold, to U.S. I am no authority, but I believe I know the law on this subject. I have an ASM Colt clone. 10s will probably be best. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. Cimarron Thunderer and In the beginning, I had a pair of ASM Colt clones. Type: Revolver. My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. A nice write-up and while it may be legal to take deer with the load described I would note that said load has less power than the 44-40 out of a m-92 carbine, a close range proposition to be sure. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. 1873 Rifle Manual. I think if I was to get a cap and ball revolver I would look for one of the stainless steel Rugers. After that, the law is quite simple, though apparently foolish. Tsk tsk. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). Sorry for misleading anyone. THE BLUING SHOWS A FEW LIGHT SCRATCES AND DINGS BUT IS VERY NICE. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. I have an Italian-made 1858 replica with an R&D conversion cylinder. Thanks for giving some info on the handgun side of the black powder world. That means that two Colt Peacemakers coming off the line 1 minute apart (11:59PM on Dec 31 1898 and 12:00 AM on Jan 1, 19 99, define the force of the law. On a Remington 1858, all you have to do is flip down the loading lever, pull the cylinder pin forward, and ECCO! You are to be congratulated in Choosing the BEST designed Black Powder Percussion revolver on the Market! Hes got an 1858 Remington in each hand, and looks like at least two more on his belt. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why it broke due to stress risers from the poorly finished part). I shot ASM 58's in my early years. It is a very pretty gun with a 24 octogon barrel and a case hardened receiver. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. Not to put too fine a point on an excellent review but the Preacher killed Marshal Stockburn at the end. Serves the same purpose as putting lube over the ball as described in the article, but with less mess, and assists in proper compression with lighter loads. For more recent exchange rates, please use the. Loved the pics too. Remington with 40 grains. Thanks. For the first 50 rounds the cylinder was very tight and a pain in the butt to fit in and out of the frame, but it is broken in and now I can change it with ease, but Im still not as fast as Clint in Pale rider. .44 Cal percussion. But that same design made the Remington more robust than the Colts and also gave the advantage of rapid cylinder swapping. It was just the size of a small outfit, like 4-5 people there and I saw mostly lever rifles parts (might be they got their pistol from other sources). Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. Or something like that. ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. A lot of their workers did not want to move out of town where all the gun makers were located, so ASM lost a lot of their talent which started their quality problems. Red Coats Get Run Off. Very cool stuff. Model: 1858. Also on the note of black powder, someone with a lesser felony conviction can own a black powder gun as long as the magazine cannot be altered to fire High power center fire ammunition (45-70 and .45 colt cowboy rounds do not apply). The Pistol was so designed, that the hammer when cocked, would suck back with it, the remnants of the cap just fired, which more often than not, would follow the principle of Gravity, so ably demonstrated by Sir Isaac Newton, and fall into the Yawning Gap, the cocked hammer revealed, So when the trigger was pressed for the next shot, there would be a sort of, Scrunch, sound, as the cap was chewed up and mashed by the falling hammer, effectivley jamming the revolver! Reenacting: CW & IW I purchased it new from EMF in 1986. The thing now runs great, and I enjoy shooting it when I do. I am a bit of a traditionalist so I have 50-50 lard-beeswax that I put on cylinder after loading; cleaning is easy with hot water and Ballistol. A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years back for a Christmas gift for his son. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. If you see one for sale someplace, check it out carefully before you buy. For effective ignition, a ball has to fit tightly in the cylinder, and consequently a bit is shaved off when loading. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Often the outside contour dimensions will differ at the bottom of the barrel lug at the frame, but that's not a critical thing. I shoot both of them and they are a hoot. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard

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